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Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby papakarl » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:11 pm

Hi. I have been researching the Netflix Player and trying to see if it will work with my Sprint Wireless Internet service. I want to watch the movies on my tv, so do I need any additional accessories to make it work. I just want to make sure I don't buy something and then realize I can't use it. So any info would be greatly appreciated. I am looking to buy this as soon as I get an answer. Also, I have been reading about a so-so picture quality. Is this improving? Thanks.
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Postby jinj » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am

You need to be able to get a consistent download rate of 1.2 Mbps to get an acceptable picture quality.

Perform a speed test on your laptop, see if you get that.
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Postby eri3k » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:27 am

The general consensus from people who have tried streaming to the Roku using a cellular broadband connection is that it usually results in a poor viewing experience. Here is one user's description of the difficulties it can present:
http://forums.rokulabs.com/viewtopic.ph ... 933#111933

By the way, streams below 3-dot quality* are - for the most part - unwatchable on larger screens.

(* 1.0 Mbps average with some scenes requiring up to 1.6 Mbps for short periods)
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Postby techn0lizard » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:28 am

Basically the ROKU is limited by your wireless settings/provider. I learned some real good lessons about the difference in provider content vs. how much you spend on a TV, lol (I HATE CABLE).

Depending on the speed, and the possibility that watching movies could push you over a network usage cap, I would proceed with caution. It's easy to forget the SIZE that a HD quality movie can be. (not even sure if that is an issue for you?)

I have a 42" LCD HD 1080p, and anything under 3 dots is unwatchable. Even 3 dots will make u wonder if you made the right decision. I learned how to force load content at the highest quality (works for some, not for all) but at 1.5 Mbps loading times (and re buffering) can be VERY irritating.

That said, I LOVE my ROKU. Streaming watch-it-now wirelessly to my TV is one of the coolest things that I have done for my house and budget. Imagine 12000+ movies for $100??? The network set up was easy.

If you can say without a doubt that you can get 3 Mbps I would recommend trying it. With a SD TV I would even say that quicker.

Remember, you will also be sharing with your computer. So if you are a gamer or P2P user and your laptop is always on--you have to calculate the "available" bandwith. Speed tests on the internet can be a good indication, but it depends on where you go. Try to get an average rating between several (don't forget to check out your own providers numbers).
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Re: Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby crasmus22 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:16 am

papakarl wrote:Hi. I have been researching the Netflix Player and trying to see if it will work with my Sprint Wireless Internet service. I want to watch the movies on my tv, so do I need any additional accessories to make it work. I just want to make sure I don't buy something and then realize I can't use it. So any info would be greatly appreciated. I am looking to buy this as soon as I get an answer. Also, I have been reading about a so-so picture quality. Is this improving? Thanks.


Is your Sprint wireless service their WiMax or cellular?
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Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby papakarl » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:05 am

jinj wrote:You need to be able to get a consistent download rate of 1.2 Mbps to get an acceptable picture quality.

Perform a speed test on your laptop, see if you get that.


This is a home PC ran on Sprint Wireless. Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I perform a speed test on my pc? On my Sprint window, it shows 1.11 Mb sent and 13.7Mb received. I'm not sure if that will help the situation. Thanks for any info.
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Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby papakarl » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:10 am

This is a home PC ran on Sprint Wireless. Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I perform a speed test on my pc? On my Sprint window, it shows 1.11 Mb sent and 13.7Mb received. I'm not sure if that will help the situation. Also, the term "3 dots" was used in one of the reples. Help me grasp what this is. Thanks for any info
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Re: Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby crasmus22 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:22 am

papakarl wrote:This is a home PC ran on Sprint Wireless. Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I perform a speed test on my pc?


http://speedtest.net/
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Re: Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby eri3k » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:02 am

papakarl wrote:Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I perform a speed test on my pc?
If you want to see what speed you can get from the Netflix servers, there is a speed test here:
http://cdn.nflximg.com/us/script/speedcheck.html

Help in understanding the results is here:
http://forums.rokulabs.com/viewtopic.ph ... 138#111138

papakarl wrote:Also, the term "3 dots" was used in one of the reples. Help me grasp what this is. Thanks for any info
Description of dots:
http://forums.rokulabs.com/viewtopic.ph ... 119#108119

Picture of dots:
Image
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Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby papakarl » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:53 pm

Well, here are my result.

Test 1 Results
135k - 2219ms - 487 kBps (fb: 578ms)
270k - 4782ms - 452 kBps (fb: 484ms)
540k - 7516ms - 575 kBps (fb: 468ms)
675k - 9812ms - 550 kBps (fb: 375ms)
810k - 10594ms - 612 kBps (fb: 563ms)
945k - 12781ms - 592 kBps (fb: 532ms)
1080k - 13766ms - 628 kBps (fb: 406ms)
2025k - 32891ms - 493 kBps (fb: 468ms)

What do you think? Thanks.
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Re: Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby wideasleep1 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:01 pm

papakarl wrote:Well, here are my result.

Test 1 Results
135k - 2219ms - 487 kBps (fb: 578ms)
270k - 4782ms - 452 kBps (fb: 484ms)
540k - 7516ms - 575 kBps (fb: 468ms)
675k - 9812ms - 550 kBps (fb: 375ms)
810k - 10594ms - 612 kBps (fb: 563ms)
945k - 12781ms - 592 kBps (fb: 532ms)
1080k - 13766ms - 628 kBps (fb: 406ms)
2025k - 32891ms - 493 kBps (fb: 468ms)

What do you think? Thanks.
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Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby papakarl » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:27 pm

So I guess the Netflix Player is not for me. Or is there something that can be done to achieve this goal. Thanks.
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Re: Wireless Internet and Netflix Player

Postby wideasleep1 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:04 pm

papakarl wrote:So I guess the Netflix Player is not for me. Or is there something that can be done to achieve this goal. Thanks.


Your bandwidth won't support live streaming, but you could consider cached streamers, like VUDU.
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Postby papakarl » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:20 pm

Darn it. I was hoping to be able to use the Netflix Player. Oh well, I'll check into VUDU and see what they are about. Thanks everyone for all of your help and info.
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Postby jinj » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:31 pm

What USB/PCMCIA card are you using? You might be on the older CDMA Rev. 0 standard.

The Rev .A is much faster.
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