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Postby billc124 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:13 am

robertm wrote:
jcmolet wrote:
billc124 wrote:
dusty wrote:if you don't like it, don't watch it.. i don't see why this would even be an issue. there is porn on the web, that doesn't stop me from using my browser..


I don't think anyone here has said anything negative about this being an option. It just goes against what they have said their policy is. That is why this is an interesting development.


Hopefully this isn't an indication that Roku is having a hard time striking deals with premium content providers. If EroticVision.TV is the best content they can come up with, I don't think it bodes well for their future viability in this market.


I doubt one thing has anything to do with the other.


I agree. My guess is that the policy really is that they won't feature adult content channels in the channel store but if someone wants to link the channel to their player in this manner that it is OK. I am guessing that the channels featured have some kind of partnership with Roku and the ones that you add outside of the channel store do not.
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Postby robertm » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:21 am

billc124 wrote:
robertm wrote:
jcmolet wrote:
billc124 wrote:
dusty wrote:if you don't like it, don't watch it.. i don't see why this would even be an issue. there is porn on the web, that doesn't stop me from using my browser..


I don't think anyone here has said anything negative about this being an option. It just goes against what they have said their policy is. That is why this is an interesting development.


Hopefully this isn't an indication that Roku is having a hard time striking deals with premium content providers. If EroticVision.TV is the best content they can come up with, I don't think it bodes well for their future viability in this market.


I doubt one thing has anything to do with the other.


I agree. My guess is that the policy really is that they won't feature adult content channels in the channel store but if someone wants to link the channel to their player in this manner that it is OK. I am guessing that the channels featured have some kind of partnership with Roku and the ones that you add outside of the channel store do not.



And let's keep it real... this is going to make the Roku more popular not less. Even if they don't promote it themselves this is going to sell more units which makes premium content providers more likely to jump on board.
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Postby billc124 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:23 am

robertm wrote:
billc124 wrote:
robertm wrote:
jcmolet wrote:
billc124 wrote:
dusty wrote:if you don't like it, don't watch it.. i don't see why this would even be an issue. there is porn on the web, that doesn't stop me from using my browser..


I don't think anyone here has said anything negative about this being an option. It just goes against what they have said their policy is. That is why this is an interesting development.


Hopefully this isn't an indication that Roku is having a hard time striking deals with premium content providers. If EroticVision.TV is the best content they can come up with, I don't think it bodes well for their future viability in this market.


I doubt one thing has anything to do with the other.


I agree. My guess is that the policy really is that they won't feature adult content channels in the channel store but if someone wants to link the channel to their player in this manner that it is OK. I am guessing that the channels featured have some kind of partnership with Roku and the ones that you add outside of the channel store do not.



And let's keep it real... this is going to make the Roku more popular not less. Even if they don't promote it themselves this is going to sell more units which makes premium content providers more likely to jump on board.


Oh sure. It is a very smart move actually. Keep what you make a bit of money off of or is family friendly or popular to the masses, front and center, and allow a way for others to add stuff that you don't really acknowledge officially and you still make money selling the boxes that people who want that content buy. Makes perfect business sense to me.
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Postby robertm » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:59 am

billc124 wrote:Oh sure. It is a very smart move actually. Keep what you make a bit of money off of or is family friendly or popular to the masses, front and center, and allow a way for others to add stuff that you don't really acknowledge officially and you still make money selling the boxes that people who want that content buy. Makes perfect business sense to me.



It is not like my satellite stb is porn free. It has 10 or 15 PPV channels.

I think if people were going to object it would be because there are no ratings locks or other preventative measures to keep kids from hearing and seeing things they shouldn't on the promoted channels. Even if it just required a password when it wakes up it might make it more appealing to parents. Even the most dilligent parent can't watch their kids every second.
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Postby jcmolet » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:59 am

billc124 wrote:Oh sure. It is a very smart move actually. Keep what you make a bit of money off of or is family friendly or popular to the masses, front and center, and allow a way for others to add stuff that you don't really acknowledge officially and you still make money selling the boxes that people who want that content buy. Makes perfect business sense to me.


I am sure that is the thinking; however, I think only time will tell if was a smart move or not. Unless Roku is successful at adding the "family friendly or popular" content through deals with premium content providers, I think they run the risk of being the box that started off with great potential (Netflix and Amazon), yet ended up as just an outlet for porn. Again, only time will tell.
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Adult Content Channel

Postby RokuBrian » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:58 am

Hi everyone,

Wanted to let folks know that EroticVision used our SDK to make a channel and is delivering it privately to customers. This channel will not be available through the Roku Channel Store. It will be delivered privately to customers by the developer.

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Adult Content Channel

Postby zwei » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:06 am

RokuBrian wrote:Hi everyone,

Wanted to let folks know that EroticVision used our SDK to make a channel and is delivering it privately to customers. This channel will not be available through the Roku Channel Store. It will be delivered privately to customers by the developer.

Thanks,
Brian

Straight to the point. Thank you.

Sounds like a win-win situation to me. The people who aren't looking for this content will never see it …and the people who DO want it have that option.
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Re: Adult Content Channel

Postby jeffrok » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:19 am

RokuBrian wrote:Hi everyone,

Wanted to let folks know that EroticVision used our SDK to make a channel and is delivering it privately to customers. This channel will not be available through the Roku Channel Store. It will be delivered privately to customers by the developer.

Thanks,
Brian


Question..

Just what IS a Roku Evangelist? ;)
Yeah, I got some Rokus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koy2eg1ioZ8&list=HL1380998604&feature=mh_lolz
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Postby supersecretusername » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:18 pm

Thanks for all of the great comments. We are super excited about the launch, we had some slight technical difficulties mid-day, but otherwise it went great!

We thought we would stop by and just provide a bit more information.

First thing. We realize that our content isn't for everyone, but we do know that there is quite a bit of demand for adult content delivered responsibly to Roku users. Thanks to Roku for making the platform possible.

With that said, I would like to talk a bit about the deliberate decisions made on our part.

1. Private Channel delivery.

We love this feature as it allows users interested in content out of the mainstream to add content to the Roku Digital Video Player. Users that are not interested (truly not interested) will never know that EroticVision.TV even exists. EroticVision.TV is marketed a bit differently than the previous channel releases. Our Adult Content partners will market content and the Roku to existing users and people that are expressly interested in the quality content that they provide. Of course we wanted current Roku users to know about it as well, but it will never "be in your face".

2. The inclusion of the 5 digit pin number.

There was no requirement for this feature; it was not mandated. Controlling the ability to view our content to responsible adults was something that we put a lot of thought into and is very important to us.

3. The EVTV channel icon.

We choose to use an abbreviation of EroticVision.TV [EVTV] on the channel icon as to allow our channel to exist next to other mainstream channels on the Roku home screen without screaming "PORN!". It is also a bit less of a mouthful than EroticVision.TV when spoken. We hope you like it.

4. Content.

Wasteland.com is the premier and oldest BDSM lifestyle destination on the web. This is our first content partner. We will be providing content from other partners over the next few months. We intend to be able to provide content from any adult provider that wishes to make their content available.

5. Installing the EroticVision.TV channel does not require a subscription to a partner site.

You can install the channel without signing up or paying for anything. Currently we have some quality previews that you can enjoy. Shortly we will have content such as adult related podcasts, previews and the like "Free!". The "My Playlist" area in the channel works similar to what you would expect. You visit a content partner (as list of which are at http://www.EroticVision.TV) and add videos to your playlist via the partner website.

Please go take a look at our Wasteland/EroticVision.TV promotional video:

http://www.youtube.com/Eroticvision

Thanks,

The EroticVision.TV team.
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Postby mega1026 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:38 pm

i think this is a good move for Roku, seeing as the Fyre Tv Box can stay in business ONLY offering porn, seeing as the Roku has tons of other stuff AND porn makes it only that much more valuable...

and just like a previous poster said, any cable or satellite stb has plenty of ppv porn channels, not like premium content shys away from cable or satellite
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Postby unclebob » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:54 pm

billc124 wrote:They said it is their policy to not have Porn on the box, but who knows.


Again, the quote was "As a policy, Roku is not interested in bringing porn to the Roku player."

That sounds like they will put no effort into bringing in porn, not that the box will be closed to it.

Subtle difference.
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Postby BoloMKXXVIII » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:56 am

Honestly I do not see what the big deal is. I think Roku is handling the situation perfectly. We do not have to see it. If you are looking for adult content, it is available. Everyone wins.
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Postby kencrudup » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:28 pm

BoloMKXXVIII wrote:Honestly I do not see what the big deal is.

It's simple, and plainly obvious from that other long thread- there are people out there who not only want to make sure they can't see anything they find objectionable, but also get off on ensuring nobody else can, either. They think they're doing the "right thing".
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Postby BoloMKXXVIII » Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:11 am

kencrudup wrote:
BoloMKXXVIII wrote:Honestly I do not see what the big deal is.

It's simple, and plainly obvious from that other long thread- there are people out there who not only want to make sure they can't see anything they find objectionable, but also get off on ensuring nobody else can, either. They think they're doing the "right thing".


I will never understand why anyone would think that they must push their values on other people. People have different opinions and live their lives differently. Welcome to the USA. If you want everyone to act and think alike you are welcome to move to North Korea. What makes some people's opinion more valuable than anyone else's? I understand protecting children, but that has been covered by their current policy.
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Adult content on Roku

Postby newmediadude » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:05 pm

I am not judging anyone for liking or not liking adult content. The last time I checked, the US is still a free country. I have nothing, personally, against porn. Having said that, I do have 2 kids and even though I know that the adult content does not show up on the Roku channel store, if you do add it with the channel code, it will be displayed on my channel store and accessible to my kids.

It would be great if there was a way to categorize channels by ratings and then have a parent control system installed where you can limit what the kids see.

A system very similar to Netflix's system where you can set up profiles and then put a maximum rating they can see (e.g. G or PG). Then only movies that are that rating or below show up for my kids. Then I don't have to worry about it.

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