Village Idiot wrote:
jplehmann wrote:mjn:My two cents: if an option can require a PIN to add a channel, why can't an option require that same PIN to access a channel (or to even access ANY channel)? That would be enough for me. I understand that wouldn't address everyone's needs, but a) seems like an easy option to implement, b) would benefit all channels and not just netflix, and c) wouldn't bother most people at all.Appreciate any pointers to relevant information I've missed.
Please don't assume most people wouldn't be bothered.
I sure would be bothered if i had to keep using a pin for every channel when viewing.
I like to serf around before i decide what channel to watch.
Clicking in a pin each time would be a pain-in-the-donkey.
I think you miss Village Idiot's point.
If I'm understanding correctly, he is not saying that everyone wouldn't be bothered by having to enter a PIN to enter a channel. Clearly some of us (who don't want/need that feature) would find it an extra hassle to have to constantly enter a PIN. However, having the OPTION to enable/disable such a feature should be simple for ROKU (the company) to implement, and would likely be acceptable to both camps (helping the "parental control" camp, while not harming the "no need for this" group you are in). And FWIW I personally agree with his reasoning.
With such an option, those who feel they really need "parental controls" (as to which channel to watch) could easily enable the feature. Yes, those people would have the inconvenience of having to constantly enter PINs to change channels, but that is what that crowd was asking for (controls on where "little ones" are allowed to go on the ROKU).
However, those (such as yourself, and myself) who don't care about these controls can just as easily leave that option off, and the ROKU will continue to function as it currently does. Since simply turning that OPTION off will cause the ROKU box to function the same (if ROKU, the company, proceeded with VillageIdiot's suggestion), than those who turn the option off essentially are no worse off than if (as is the current case) the option didn't exist at all.
So the only thing that you or I would "lose" by that option, is the time ROKU engineers have diverted (from other projects which you or I may care about) by adding this option to the box. However, beyond that diversion of ROKU resources, this option costs us nothing if we don't want to turn it on and use it (but does greatly help the "parental control" crowd get what they want/need in the device)! And due to the nature of the request, where you simply want to have the firmware optionally (only when the feature is turned on) pop up a PIN dialog box before allowing entry into a channel, this really sounds like it is a feature that should be trivial to code on ROKU's end (and therefore likely shouldn't take a lot of developer time to implement in a future version of the ROKU firmware).
Of course, to be effective as a "parental control", the end user (who you are trying to "control") shouldn't be able to simple turn that feature on/off at will (or it defeats the point if anyone can turn off those controls to just watch what they want). However, that could easily be handled by any valid mechanism to restrict who can toggle that option on/off. For example, one simple option would be to not put this "parental control" on/off option on the "settings" tab, but instead require the "parent" to log into the ROKU web site (linked to the box) to change these settings. Or, another option (that would also work) would be to have the parental control on/off setting available from the ROKU box, BUT require a PIN code to be entered if/when you are trying to toggle/change that setting on the box.