HD netflix streaming coming to xbox 360, Roku.......

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Postby jdoug » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:58 pm

Sweet!
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Postby Kermee » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:04 pm

"Roku will be using Advanced Profile encodes which will deliver HD at substantially lower bit-rates than what Xbox is offering."

SWEET! I've always wondered about that since the Roku has hardware to directly support AP versus the Xbox which has to do everything via software.

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Postby MCWHAMMER » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:32 pm

"- Roku will be delivering Netflix in HD by the end of the year"

Thank you for this news. It pays to stick around these forums (And thank you as well for mentioning that you even appreciate our feedback when we're mad at your products! That would be me most of the time, ha!)!

I sent in your post (RokuTim) to the excellent website HackingNetflix, so hopefully it will get posted soon over there, and everyone will finally know when HD is coming.
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Postby sbufe » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:04 pm

Thanks so much RokuTim!
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Postby MCWHAMMER » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:01 am

All right RokuTim, I sent it over, and you're now featured on HackingNetflix :D

Here is the link everyone.

Again, can't wait to see the update. Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later.
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Please make the "extra" Soundbridge fuctionality!

Postby ismarketing » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:19 pm

Would love to be able to stream itunes and net radio through the Roku/Netflix box. I have several Soundbridges, and lobe them , but this would be a great add on with the Rocku/netflix interface.

Please!
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Postby RokuTim » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:32 am

A quick follow-up to address the "lower bit-rate" questions. Using a more advanced codec, we can deliver equal or better quality at lower bit-rates.
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Postby Burkhardi » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:57 am

So you are the "Matthew" they were thanking then?


MCWHAMMER wrote:I sent in your post (RokuTim) to the excellent website HackingNetflix, so hopefully it will get posted soon over there, and everyone will finally know when HD is coming.
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Postby sscherr » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:39 pm

I have two questions.

1. Roku has stated in the past that HD will be downconverted to 480P over component. However, tests on the x-box 360 have revealed it is not downconverted there. Will it still be downconverted?

2. If it is not downconverted and it broadcast at 720P, many older CRT's do not convert 720P and cannot handle 720P. Will the Roku when enabled for HDTV output at 1080i?


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Postby MCWHAMMER » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:49 pm

Burkhardi wrote:So you are the "Matthew" they were thanking then?


Yep :D It's an honor to be featured on one of my favorite sites, HackingNetflix.com... even if I did just tip them off to what Tim said. I was just very happy to hear the news.
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Postby dcxbox » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:07 am

RokuTim wrote:A quick follow-up to address the "lower bit-rate" questions. Using a more advanced codec, we can deliver equal or better quality at lower bit-rates.


my question is will this also happen with the standard def video as well??? lower bitrate and better quality than currently available?
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Postby RokuJamesL » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:38 am

dcxbox wrote:
RokuTim wrote:A quick follow-up to address the "lower bit-rate" questions. Using a more advanced codec, we can deliver equal or better quality at lower bit-rates.


my question is will this also happen with the standard def video as well??? lower bitrate and better quality than currently available?


Yes the lower bit rates will also apply to standard def streams as well. Everyone will benefit from the improvement.
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Postby Bron » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:46 pm

Come on shellyp, the Xbox 360 has a lot more hardware including a harddrive which it will need to buffer that HD content. The Roku can support HD display-wise but there's no way currently they can stream it to you over most home links - especially given that Comcst is already capping speeds.

So give them some time. Probably it will take some new compression technology to make it work for the Roku. Anyway, what you already have is an outstanding deal. $99 for near DVD-quality content....come on, we have nothing to complain about!

Cheer up and bide your time. ;)
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Postby RAV » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:12 am

Lots of talk about bandwidth.

Remember cable is shared and therefore they must limit bandwidth to save capacity to other users.

Why would they want to allow a technology that can put them out of business.

Verizon FIOS just upped my minimum speed from 5MB to 10MB for the lowest cost broadband (fiber) package. Fiber has Gigabit capacity (not enabled to the home yet) and can easily absorb this demand. Also since it is not shared (like cable) it is not subject to this problem.
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Postby shelleyp » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:31 am

Bron wrote:Come on shellyp, the Xbox 360 has a lot more hardware including a harddrive which it will need to buffer that HD content. The Roku can support HD display-wise but there's no way currently they can stream it to you over most home links - especially given that Comcst is already capping speeds.

So give them some time. Probably it will take some new compression technology to make it work for the Roku. Anyway, what you already have is an outstanding deal. $99 for near DVD-quality content....come on, we have nothing to complain about!

Cheer up and bide your time. ;)


I wrote my note before Roku responded. Basically I take companies at their word. When a company says, we will support HD when Netflix provides HD, I believe it. However, I'm amenable to support for HD by year end. The timing isn't much different.

I'm more concerned about AT&T's broadband capping, as I use AT&T DSL, and with the caps mentioned, I'm not sure I can run Roku/HD if it's released.

I'm beginning to think internet-based video is a pipe dream, and 2008 will be the last time it's really feasible in the US. Disappointing.
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