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For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possible.

Postby Crow550 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:52 pm

The people from OnLive are launching a cloud based web browser (with flash and everything) : http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3582 ... _Plans.php

So Roku please get in contact with the OnLive folks and check this out. :P

Everyone else. OnLive loves to hear peoples suggestions so let them know you want this Browser to popup on the Roku DVP: http://www.onlive.com/support

I think this cloud browser is a great idea!

The CEO has some awesome ideas: http://onlivefans.com/news/onlives-futu ... tion/1341/ & http://onlivefans.com/news/onlives-futu ... view/1287/
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby KennyJ » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:19 pm

I mentioned this before (though I think everyone ignore it. :) ), but yes, this looks to be really cool. I have an Onlive "console" so, I can test it on on that. :)
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby mastermesh » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:22 pm

now that would be nice on roku!
http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=46566&p=359897#p359897 -channel lists/tools
http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63553&p=409506#p409506 -fta
http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=64096 -linear channels
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby TheEndless » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:25 pm

Your post subject is a bit misleading, and maybe a little premature...

None of those links explain how the browser will actually work. I can understand static websites being served up as images (not sure how links would work), but I don't see how they could do flash or other video formats without transcoding and serving it to the client. If that's the case, then they'd need to transcode to a Roku compatible format, which is something that Skyfire technically already does, so it's not a unique idea.
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby KennyJ » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:07 pm

TheEndless wrote:Your post subject is a bit misleading, and maybe a little premature...

None of those links explain how the browser will actually work. I can understand static websites being served up as images (not sure how links would work), but I don't see how they could do flash or other video formats without transcoding and serving it to the client. If that's the case, then they'd need to transcode to a Roku compatible format, which is something that Skyfire technically already does, so it's not a unique idea.


My assumption is that what they'll deliver for webpages (HTML and all) is streaming video -- much like their game service. So what you'll be looking at is, basically, is a live-streaming video of a website. Does that make sense? Much like, when you're playing an Onlive game, you're watching a live streaming video and sending your controller commands to a remote server, the Onlive browser will be the same, but instead of a game, it will be a remote browser.
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Postby TheEndless » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:32 pm

KennyJ wrote:My assumption is that what they'll deliver for webpages (HTML and all) is streaming video -- much like their game service. So what you'll be looking at is, basically, is a live-streaming video of a website. Does that make sense? Much like, when you're playing an Onlive game, you're watching a live streaming video and sending your controller commands to a remote server, the Onlive browser will be the same, but instead of a game, it will be a remote browser.

I've never actually seen/used OnLive. That's interesting. How do they deal with lag between a button press and playback buffer?
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby -LD » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:04 pm

Magic and voodoo. They have some amazing technoloy that makes it possible to have minimal latency/lag while streaming over the Internet.
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Postby KennyJ » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:40 pm

-LD wrote:Magic and voodoo. They have some amazing technoloy that makes it possible to have minimal latency/lag while streaming over the Internet.


What LD said. I have no idea, but the lag is minimal (to my non-gamer eyes).
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Postby -LD » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:18 pm

It really is voodoo to me. I've built a similar product (from a tech perspective) and know just what it takes to make it responsive. The remote session graphics aren't too terrible to figure out, but the latency required for gaming is voodoo.
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby Crow550 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:55 pm

Good site to keep up news on this: http://onlivefans.com/news/

More info on the Browser: http://onlivefans.com/news/google-chrom ... test/1270/

You can make a free OnLive account & play any game for 30 minutes free: http://www.onlive.com to try it. What's all coming to OnLive: http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?86 ... -to-OnLive

I don't know if the Browser will be combined with Onlive service or just a separate project or both.

Think the web browser is the only cloud idea? Nope. They are also messing with cloud computers or cloud desktops. Like a Windows desktop you can access anywhere, on any device.

The CEO owns quite a few projects. Read about his revolutionary wireless connection discovery in my original post? To make Onlive capable of 4K video & extremely low latency. Also sell the wireless to ISP providers.

Cool stuff.

So OnLive & all there projects they are working on + Roku would be killer. I mean the OnLive consoles lack Netflix & uh Roku delivers that plus more. ;)
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby texashildy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:08 pm

OK, I'll bite...

Won't this just be another way to access content that is not supposed to be accessible apart from a computer? How are Hulu or CBS.com going to be OK with this?
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Re: For those wanting a web browser on the Roku. Now possibl

Postby Crow550 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:45 pm

texashildy wrote:OK, I'll bite...

Won't this just be another way to access content that is not supposed to be accessible apart from a computer? How are Hulu or CBS.com going to be OK with this?


I think this would be something fun to have. There is plenty of flash content and sites that would be fun to check out on a big screen. I don't know about Hulu.com & such. Some will be blocked, workarounds will be found and such.

With all the web plugins this will have the sites you can access should be pretty varied & not so limited.
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Postby texashildy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 pm

Crow550 wrote:
texashildy wrote:OK, I'll bite...

Won't this just be another way to access content that is not supposed to be accessible apart from a computer? How are Hulu or CBS.com going to be OK with this?


I think this would be something fun to have. There is plenty of flash content and sites that would be fun to check out on a big screen. I don't know about Hulu.com & such. Some will be blocked, workarounds will be found and such.

With all the web plugins this will have the sites you can access should be pretty varied & not so limited.

That answers my question, thanks. :shock:
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Postby SuetyStanes » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:07 pm

texashildy wrote:OK, I'll bite...

Won't this just be another way to access content that is not supposed to be accessible apart from a computer? How are Hulu or CBS.com going to be OK with this?


I have to imagine that, as the lines continue to blur in what a "computer" is, these companies will get tired of trying to block various devices for whatever reason and will embrace the technology instead. It seems the only way to continue to be profitable, keeping up with current technology trends and whatnot.
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Postby texashildy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 pm

We're not talking about how we think things should be, we're talking about how they are.
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