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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby dwanthny » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 am

castalla wrote:
mikebdoss wrote:I guarantee the Roku has more channels and will be better updated/maintained than your TV apps. If all you use is Netflix, you probably don't need your Roku, but otherwise keep it.

i've had a Samsung smart TV for just over 6 months - it's had umpteen more updates, and the addition of several decent apps, than the Roku box has had in an entire year.

Samsung is the exception in the Smart TV market. They have a history of expanding their offerings and supporting their apps.

Basil wrote:If a content owner would develop a workable live stream app, that would be great. But, I recall during the 2012 presidential debates, some apps that tried to live-stream them had some issues, some severe. If it's not done right, and by someone with the finances to do what it takes to get it right, it'll be a colossal failure.

The channels that streamed the debates live via the Roku (Huffpo, The Blaze, WSJ Live, Fox News) had no problems that I recall. They all had excellent streams.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby Basil » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:22 am

dwanthny wrote:The channels that streamed the debates live via the Roku (Huffpo, The Blaze, WSJ Live, Fox News) had no problems that I recall. They all had excellent streams.

Huh. I had trouble with them, and seem to recall others experiencing issues, too. Maybe only a few of us has problems, and I'm magnifying them because they happened to me and therefore noticed them. Maybe related, I use my Xbox to watch college football via the ESPN app, and this past season, about half the time, the stream failed. Maybe it's my Internet connection.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby mikebdoss » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:33 am

Basil wrote:
dwanthny wrote:The channels that streamed the debates live via the Roku (Huffpo, The Blaze, WSJ Live, Fox News) had no problems that I recall. They all had excellent streams.

Huh. I had trouble with them, and seem to recall others experiencing issues, too. Maybe only a few of us has problems, and I'm magnifying them because they happened to me and therefore noticed them. Maybe related, I use my Xbox to watch college football via the ESPN app, and this past season, about half the time, the stream failed. Maybe it's my Internet connection.


That's the 800lb gorilla in the room regarding streaming of live TV, and likely a reason why networks aren't jumping on it as fast as cord cutters want them to - the failure rate is still HUGE. Every live event has problems for someone, even if everything else is working for them, and it's working for most people. Compare that to cable/sat, where problems still happen, but no where NEAR on that scale.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby castalla » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 am

BBC tv streams all its services live 24hrs (except when there's some copyright restriction - usually some Hollywood films and live foorball aka. soccer). Available via various devices. Works amazingly well.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby Basil » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:34 am

castalla wrote:BBC tv streams all its services live 24hrs (except when there's some copyright restriction - usually some Hollywood films and live foorball aka. soccer). Available via various devices. Works amazingly well.

Streams it to set-top boxes? Or via their Website? 'Cause there's a difference.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby castalla » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:39 am

Via the IPlayer website for PCs, but apps for Android and iOS
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby philsoft » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:45 am

So not various devices, so much as various computers?
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby castalla » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:56 am

The Roku is just another specialised computer - same as a RaspPi, a Wandboard, a Cubieboard, etc. The big difference is that these other devices are open and not locked down.

I have 2 Raspis and a Cubieboard - excellent access to virtually ANY radio station in the World, and both live and on-demand tv. The always-on Roku is good for checking the time! -
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby philsoft » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:59 am

castalla wrote:The Roku is just another specialised computer - same as a RaspPi, a Wandboard, a Cubieboard, etc. The big difference is that these other devices are open and not locked down.

I have 2 Raspis and a Cubieboard - excellent access to virtually ANY radio station in the World, and both live and on-demand tv. The always-on Roku is good for checking the time! -


I am clarifying, because to me there is a world of difference between a Set Top Box and a computer. Since we are in a forum for users of a STB I felt it wise to clarify that when you said "various devices" That it did not include STB's.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby gonzotek » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:04 am

philsoft wrote:
castalla wrote:The Roku is just another specialised computer - same as a RaspPi, a Wandboard, a Cubieboard, etc. The big difference is that these other devices are open and not locked down.

I have 2 Raspis and a Cubieboard - excellent access to virtually ANY radio station in the World, and both live and on-demand tv. The always-on Roku is good for checking the time! -


I am clarifying, because to me there is a world of difference between a Set Top Box and a computer. Since we are in a forum for users of a STB I felt it wise to clarify that when you said "various devices" That it did not include STB's.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby philsoft » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:05 am

gonzotek wrote:
philsoft wrote:
castalla wrote:The Roku is just another specialised computer - same as a RaspPi, a Wandboard, a Cubieboard, etc. The big difference is that these other devices are open and not locked down.

I have 2 Raspis and a Cubieboard - excellent access to virtually ANY radio station in the World, and both live and on-demand tv. The always-on Roku is good for checking the time! -


I am clarifying, because to me there is a world of difference between a Set Top Box and a computer. Since we are in a forum for users of a STB I felt it wise to clarify that when you said "various devices" That it did not include STB's.
It does: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/h ... et_iplayer


Thank you, that is what I was trying to clarify.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby castalla » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 am

I think you're attempting to split hairs!

My Raspi running xbmc TV setup is even smaller as a STB - I use the same Samsung tv remote to control it. No more difficult to use.

Setting it up was a little more complex than the Roku - but no need for a special account, credit card, etc.!

I accept the new open 'streamers' are not for everyone - but to avoid crazy evangelists, right-wing pundits, they're excellent! On the other hand, a user can stuff them full of religion and neocon progaganda and can avoid all the decent stuff too .... the point is that they're open and customizable to the user's needs, wants and tastes.

I wasted good money on the WD TV box and the Roku before freedom came via these new devices.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby philsoft » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:20 am

castalla wrote:I think you're attempting to split hairs!

My Raspi running xbmc TV setup is even smaller as a STB - I use the same Samsung tv remote to control it. No more difficult to use.

Setting it up was a little more complex than the Roku - but no need for a special account, credit card, etc.!

I accept the new open 'streamers' are not for everyone - but to avoid crazy evangelists, right-wing pundits, they're excellent! On the other hand, a user can stuff them full of religion and neocon progaganda and can avoid all the decent stuff too .... the point is that they're open and customizable to the user's needs, wants and tastes.

I wasted good money on the WD TV box and the Roku before freedom came via these new devices.


I have a Tablet sitting in the Living room that has done virtually NOTHING since I got it. I am sure I can configure it to perform all sorts of wonders. The problem is... I don't wanna. A STB stands alone in this field for me, and I believe MANY others like me. There is nothing wrong with clarifying this for others that may be reading the thread.
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby castalla » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:32 am

Just to illustrate - the latest additions to Channel Store are:

EvangelTemple
BibleTalk TV
Joyce Meyer Ministries
Hero - some sort of guns, bombs and men rubbish

Latest additions to my xbmc STB:

None - my choice!

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As usual, the original post has morphed into a wider discussion of what's available on Roku versus other devices. Surely anybody reading the thread can easily distinguish between the Roku and other devices, and get an idea of what each type of device offers.

If Roku is in competitive market then it's only fair to the curious to spell out its advantages and disadvantages?
Closing down any negative discussion, or censoring out reference to defects is Roku's perogative. Forums dedicated to other devices and services are not all sweetness and light. The Samsung and WD-TV forums have as many detractors as fans.

If new users only depended on 'reviews', etc they'd really be given a bum-steer. Anything recommended by the 'experts' at the usual review sites is usually only a rewrite of the company blurb, and I doubt most reviewers even actually try out the devices they claim to have tested!
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Re: New Smart TV and My Roku

Postby jeffrok » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:39 am

Here we go with the broken record, again.
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