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Boulderite
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Digital Out converter?

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:45 pm

I'm a quasi-audiophile with a nicer-than-average stereo system and speakers. I've ripped my classical and jazz CD collection to WMA lossless, and listen to tracks via my M1001, currently using the analog output connected to my receiver via the "Tape 1" inputs. I'm currently

I've read on the forums here about the digital output capabilities of the M1001. My receiver does not have a digital input jack, so if I wanted to use the digital output function of the M1001, I'd have to buy some sort of D/A converter.

So my question:

Would I notice a difference if I purchased a D/A converter, rather than just routing the M1001's analog output to my Tape 1 input? If so, which D/A converter should I consider, and at what price level?

(I have an NAD AV-713 receiver, and Kef Uni-Q speakers, both about 10 years old.)

Thanks.
 
stevee
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Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:06 pm

If you search the forums for audiophile or DAC, you'll uncover other peoples preferences on external DAC's

Then, if you're like me, you'll Google those brands and have a heart attack on the cost!

I personally route my Soundbridge via optical to my Home Theatre Receiver (Yamaha Rx-V530. I prefer the digital output fed through the Yamaha - the sound is brighter, deeper) but part of the reason was to appease my better half on the appearance of the spaghetti in 'her' living room.

By the way, there is an imperfection in the M1001 (digital or analog) as a result of upsampling to 48kHz (again search the forum for audiophile and noise). It manifests itself as digital noise in the background during quiet (near silent) parts of tracks. If you haven't noticed that, I'd suggest that what you're getting with your current set-up is meeting your needs.

I consider myself, like you, semi audiophile. I don't use treble and bass, avoid my amps digital processing (Rock, Jazz, Hall etc), my speakers are the right distance apart, height, I use speaker wire rather than bell wire etc. But....

There are plenty of folks who would look down on my set-up but it suits me and gives loads of enjoyment.

Oh - and blind testing of CD's and lossless files over the Soundbridge sound identical to me - so I don't need $5000 of kit to enjoy my $150 music player!
 
SuzieQ
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Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:02 am

stevee wrote:
There are plenty of folks who would look down on my set-up but it suits me and gives loads of enjoyment.

... they should look down on your set-up. Music is not about equipment; it is all about enjoyment! :D
 
hpsenicka
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Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:54 am

There are a number of affordable DACs available that perform well, and will not break the bank.

For Example, the Entech models 203.2 and 205.2 can both be found on Ebay for under $100, and are very good sounding DACs.
 
Boulderite
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Thanks

Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:43 am

Thanks, all, or the replies. It sounds as if my needs are being met by my existing set-up.

Do people with the affordable DACs recognize a significant difference using one such DAC rather than the M1001's analog out (which I presume, uses an internal DAC of similar cost/quailty)?
 
hpsenicka
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Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:10 pm

In my limited experience, the analog outputs of the Roku are clearly inferior to any external DAC I have tried.

Edit: Note that I am using an M500.
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SuzieQ
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Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:20 am

Boulderite wrote:
Do people with the affordable DACs recognize a significant difference using one such DAC rather than the M1001's analog out (which I presume, uses an internal DAC of similar cost/quailty)?

When I connected a M1001 to a good DAC, although there were some improvements, the results were not as good as expected. On the other hand, a M1000 connected to the same DAC yielded excellent results. The issues with the M1001's 44.1 to 48 kHz upsampling may have negated some of the effects of the external DAC. Here is my suggestion; try to borrow a DAC and judge for yourself. Everybody perceives the improvements differently.
 
crosbiesmith
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Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:08 pm

I bought a Beresford TC-7510 DAC for around 100 GBP because I was unhappy with the sound quality from my M1000. I strongly recommend it. The improvement was incredible.
 
imac
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Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:59 am

I also have a Beresford 7510 DAC coupled with my M1000 - sounds excellent.
 
richrpd
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:07 am

Ditto, with an M1001 massive improvement over the analogue outputs IMHO

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