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mike7
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Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:44 pm

Trying out Youtube TV, but streaming quality is bad. Stuttering, as in many dropped frames. Anyone else?

Roku Ultra btw.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:28 am

No stuttering so much but a lot of the channels are running at 30 FPS instead of 60 FPS. Sports in particular look worse at the lower frame rate.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:39 pm

What's your internet speed?
Yeah, I got some Rokus.
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:29 pm

mike7 wrote:
Trying out Youtube TV, but streaming quality is bad. Stuttering, as in many dropped frames. Anyone else?

Roku Ultra btw.

Same issue for me on my Roku Ultra. Internet speed is 25mb and the other streaming services like Netflix and Hulu work without issue. Going to try Hulu Live TV for a month and see if that's any better.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:47 pm

One thing about YouTube that I have observed compared to Netflix and Amazon. YT will stream at much much higher bitrates than the others. I have seen 4K streams with bitrates higher than 40 Mbps, and even standard 1080 over 20 Mbps. They don't seem to adapt their rates as well as the other sites for slower connections. I haven't tried YT TV, but it's most likely streaming about the same.
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:25 pm

mike7 wrote:
Trying out Youtube TV, but streaming quality is bad. Stuttering, as in many dropped frames. Anyone else?

Roku Ultra btw.

Disable Auto detect under Display Type. And set it to 4K 60 hz (or whatever your TV supports) but not HDR. For some reason having it set to HDR mode causes all kinds of stuttering.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:43 pm

I tried YouTube TV on my LG TV and all channels were also in the wrong frame rate, plus no 5.1 sound.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:54 am

8traxrule wrote:
I tried YouTube TV on my LG TV and all channels were also in the wrong frame rate, plus no 5.1 sound.

Did you disable HDR? There is a bug in the app that messes up framerates when HDR is enabled on the Roku.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:48 pm

It wasn't on a Roku unit, it was the YouTube TV app in my LG TV. The regular YouTube app in it plays most, but not all videos in 60fps (and conversely my new Roku Stick + plays the ones the TV won't play in 60fps, but not the others! I posted separately about that.)
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:17 am

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll try the suggestions tonight.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:55 am

bozzy wrote:
mike7 wrote:
Trying out Youtube TV, but streaming quality is bad. Stuttering, as in many dropped frames. Anyone else?

Roku Ultra btw.

Disable Auto detect under Display Type. And set it to 4K 60 hz (or whatever your TV supports) but not HDR. For some reason having it set to HDR mode causes all kinds of stuttering.

This did the trick, thank you!
The frame drops/stuttering is gone. That said, overall picture quality is still  worse than any other app. SlingTV, NBC Sports, all look significantly better. That is very disappointing, hopefully Google figures this one out at some point.
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:11 pm

I recently did a quick check of the stats window in YouTube TV on Roku.  Curiously the NBCUniversal properties such as NBC Sports, Olympic Channel, and my local NBC (all of which were streaming the Olympics) are 1080p30.  Other 1080p30 include Time Warner/Turner properties such as CNN, and CBS Sports and my local CBS.

On the other hand, the Disney and Fox properties (such as all the ESPN and Fox Sports channels as well as my local ABC and Fox) are 720p60.

Is this an optimal breakdown? I wonder if they’ll get to 1080p60 for everything, or jump to 4K/30...
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:44 pm

beq wrote:
I recently did a quick check of the stats window in YouTube TV on Roku.  Curiously the NBCUniversal properties such as NBC Sports, Olympic Channel, and my local NBC (all of which were streaming the Olympics) are 1080p30.  Other 1080p30 include Time Warner/Turner properties such as CNN, and CBS Sports and my local CBS.

On the other hand, the Disney and Fox properties (such as all the ESPN and Fox Sports channels as well as my local ABC and Fox) are 720p60.

Is this an optimal breakdown?  I wonder if they’ll get to 1080p60 for everything, or jump to 4K/30...

When OTA TV converted to the ATSC standard, they had two options for HD broadcast resolution: 1080i and 720p. 1080p was never considered for broadcast TV in North America at the time because it would have had to have been 30 fps, instead of 60. ABC and Fox both opted for 720p60, claiming the progressive image was better for sports. Almost all of the others went with 1080i for the higher resolution. I believe PBS might also have gone with 720p. Remember that Disney now owns ABC, so that could be why they are 720p as well.
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:38 pm

beq wrote:
I recently did a quick check of the stats window in YouTube TV on Roku.  Curiously the NBCUniversal properties such as NBC Sports, Olympic Channel, and my local NBC (all of which were streaming the Olympics) are 1080p30.  Other 1080p30 include Time Warner/Turner properties such as CNN, and CBS Sports and my local CBS.

On the other hand, the Disney and Fox properties (such as all the ESPN and Fox Sports channels as well as my local ABC and Fox) are 720p60.

Is this an optimal breakdown?  I wonder if they’ll get to 1080p60 for everything, or jump to 4K/30...

Youtube TV isn't really changing the original resolution that these networks broadcast in. Pretty much all Disney (ABC, ESPN) and Fox (Fox, FS1, FX, etc) networks broadcast in 720p60fps. Almost all other networks broadcast in 1080i30fps. 
 
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Re: Youtube TV Streaming Quality

Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:29 pm

I noticed starting yesterday my Roku Ultra got downgraded to the older youtube app version that had long since been updated. Anyone else have this issue?

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