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Re: So it is the end of the month...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:46 pm

pianotech wrote:
Look, as a consumer, I'm not saying I'm happy to pay more for things than I have to, because that's not the case. I do understand though that services we use cost money, and if I expect to use significantly more than someone else does, it follows that I'm going to be paying more than someone else does. I put 40K miles/year on my car in the course of my business. It follows that I spend more on gas/maintenance/tires/upkeep than someone putting 12K miles/year. I don't begrudge that. It's a circumstance of my choosing and I pay for it.


To me it is simple: if you sell something as "unlimited" you are retroactively obligated to stick to the original sales pitch, otherwise, don't sell it as unlimited. If your gasoline company decides to charge you double for gas because they also own a car company and you are not driving the model of car they are selling, is that really OK?

AT&T wants you to use U-Verse and Comcast wants you to watch their content, delivered to you the way they decide to deliver it, not the way you want to consume it. So they are limiting your bandwith usage to discourage you from consuming all your content on Roku/Boxee/WDTV etc. Of course, this isn't the only reason they are charging more, but it is a major one. I would be more comfortable paying more for a flat rate bandwidth plan than paying less for one where I have to check over my shoulder every time I watch a movie to make sure I haven't gone over the limit.

I'm also worried about all those senior citizens on limited retirement income who's children bought them Roku devices who are suddenly going to have a bill they don't understand when they have been paying a flat rate for 10 years. What if grandma starves to death because her automatic payment to AT&T just debited her account more than she expected just before she went to the grocery store?

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Re: So it is the end of the month...

Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:07 am

jbrave wrote:
pianotech wrote:
I'm also worried about all those senior citizens on limited retirement income who's children bought them Roku devices who are suddenly going to have a bill they don't understand when they have been paying a flat rate for 10 years. What if grandma starves to death because her automatic payment to AT&T just debited her account more than she expected just before she went to the grocery store?

- Joel


LOL!!! I sure hope you are joking with that remark, because I find it ridiculous. Grandma starving to death because she watched too much Roku, the horror.....lol....

Geez, come on. Sometimes the anti-business sentiment gets a tad overblown, no?
 
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Re: So it is the end of the month...

Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:13 am

One should always put on your wading boots before reading these 'deep' philosophical threads.
Please attempt to maintain a thin veneer of civility.
Remember, you are speaking to strangers on the internet,
not your own family at home.
 
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Re: So it is the end of the month...

Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:21 pm

Geez, come on. Sometimes the anti-business sentiment gets a tad overblown, no?


Anti business? How? I'm an entrepreneur myself.

I think businesses will do better in the long run if they focus on the needs of their customers.

The big problem with Cable TV is the lack of, and opposition to, an ala-carte system where you can pick and choose what content you watch. This failure on the part of the industry to fulfill customer needs drove the development of Internet TV. Now that people are getting what they want in other ways, the Cable companies are freaking out and trying to make internet streaming less appealing, the same way that the Music industry freaked out, fighting tooth and nail against change instead of moving to explore and develop the new frontier.

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