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Re: Hosting for video files

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Re: Hosting for video files

Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:28 pm

Where you host will depend on lots of things like who creates and owns the content, who consumes it, what budget you have, etc. I have a few of channels I work on, two of them I host on IIS servers. One is in my home and just streams "home movies" to the Roku's in my home. Another is used in an office environment and is used to stream company meetings (both live and past recordings) to conference rooms all over the campus. So for both of these it was all intranet use. Most of it I would do quite differently if it was for extranet use as well. A third channel I work on uses Windows Azure to store the videos (the videos are about 30 seconds each) and those are streamed to the end users. But the extranet one I would design differently if it wasn't just 3 people who manage all the content.

The questions below may help you as they can help you determine storage, bandwidth, security, etc.

Who is creating your content?
Who owns your content?
What kind of security is required for reading and writing content?
How much content do you have (MB/GB/TB)?
Where are your media consumers?
How frequently will it be accessed?
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:40 am

I've been using archive.org to host my channel, and it's working fine - it's actually free, too! Just upload all your files, fill in the blanks, and whatever you name it will be archive.org/details/NAME.
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Re: Hosting for video files

Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:51 pm

30a Television uses http://flvhosting.com for live streaming and video playback - they have lower cost than Amazon
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Re: Hosting for video files

Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:20 pm

https://www.scaleengine.com/ CDN has a specific Roku channel product (channels), where you can stream VOD and live over HLS. Basically, you upload your VOD, manage, and organize it in their control panel. It streams out RTMP and HLS, with a working embed example.

Disclaimer: I work for ScaleEngine, but that's also a good thing. Our stuff works.
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:37 pm

Just tried the ScaleEngine demo, but how to add a different link to test? I tried to do a Purge and took forever if that helps. As in Demo mode I think Input#1 was a hard coded
link setting that I cannot change or see in Demo mode. Is this correct for the Control Panel?
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:35 pm

FLV Hosting has been reliable for 30a TV channel http://flvhosting.com
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:54 pm

What is your opinion about BlueHost for sharing videos?
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Re: Hosting for video files

Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:36 pm

Pamela35 wrote:
What is your opinion about BlueHost for sharing videos?

Bluehost is good, they do host a bunch of spam and Cialis related websites but I always look for hosts that only want to host video, not just crap websites. Video hosting servers are specific and need high horse power, plus a large pipe to the internet, it may cost a little more but its worth it for smooth delivery
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:24 pm

It's important to note that traditional (shared) hosting or even a single dedicated server solution are not designed for scalable media hosting and delivery.

In terms of video storage for VOD, these alternatives provide no actual distributed redundancy, which means you could risk loosing your entire video library because of a failure in a single hard disk (or a local RAID, at best). Loosing a 200MB website is one problem, which you can eventually revert by re-uploading a backup in a matter of minutes, but loosing an entire video library of several GBs of content is a whole different issue.

In terms of content delivery (the actual process of sending the data from the storage to end-users through the Internet), these alternatives imply that all end-users connect to one single origin or host. When delivering a website, most individual files have a very small size, usually under 1MB each (images, CSS, JS...), which makes it possible for a single host to simultaneously serve a relatively large number of end-users. But when delivering video files, usually 10MB to several hundred MB each, and considering each end-user will most likely expect a sustained downlink throughput (from the single host to them) of at least 10Mbps, an evident bottleneck appears as soon as your audience grows to more than just a few users. That bottleneck translates into constant buffering or complete playback interruptions, which in turn leads to end-users abandoning your channel.

Furthermore, even the best cloud storage with distributed redundancy coupled with the best CDN (Content Delivery Network) might not be the most efficient way to manage your VOD content for a particular OTT platform such as Roku, because if no built-in method for updating the channel content is provided, you may need to perform this manually for each new video you upload or edit.

Frontlayer http://www.frontlayer.com is a video platform that provides a service package specifically oriented toward Roku channels, including development, publishing, management and CDN integration. Besides counting on highly-scalable, geographically-redundant storage clusters and aggregating several Tier1 CDNs (i.e. Level3, Akamai), VOD content management is integrated with each corresponding Roku channel, allowing broadcasters to upload, edit or remove videos directly from a web-based interface, with no technical knowledge required.

For more information or also if you need assistance in evaluating different technical alternatives for hosting and managing your Roku channel content:
http://www.frontlayer.com/roku-channels

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Disclaimer: While I work for Frontlayer Technologies (not affiliated in any way with Roku), this post is intended to highlight the technical differences between different approaches for hosting videos, beyond Frontlayer's own commercial solution.
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:51 pm

can the usage of ownCloud be used?

like to setup my own cloud using multiple VPS systems (they be powerful in cpu & each be 1gbit dedicated line so plenty for streaming) which this would be much cheaper, like $5/month per 500GB disk space available

curious if it can integrated for video hosting storage
 
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Re: Hosting for video files

Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:23 pm

We have been using Vimeo Pro for about 2 years now serving around 100k views per day. Never had an issue or any sort of downtime and it's only $200/year. The only issue is you can only upload 20gig per week, but its accumulative. In other words, each week you get 20gig more space. It works great for our situation.
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Re: Hosting for video files

Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:16 pm

We too use Vimeo Pro for our Roku feed. When you're a pro user, you can visit the "Video Files" tab and grab the direct links for all the hosted files.

We had been using S3 with Cloudfront, but that became cost prohibitive. I was shocked to find Vimeo Pro was so cheap and would work, and did some testing where it actually ran very, very fast. Doing a wget on one of our Vimeo-hosted files, I am still in awe at how cheap it is.

The one thing with Vimeo is that the filenames have a ? in the name. My solution was to build a stream server which uses header redirects to point users to the file. This works GREAT for Roku but also our RSS feeds. Another nice thing is that it allows us to track a great deal of information about each and every view -- see https://status.category5.tv/. An easier solution might be to simply use YOURLS or another link shortener (to hide the ? from Roku, which tends to break things in some cases).

See http://v.cat5.tv/a/2hpFuOQ7/v/e/i/1410/q/hd/CAT5TV-383-Memories-of-Me-HD.m4v <- if you grab it with wget you'll see what's "actually" happening behind the scenes... but the inevitable endpoint is... you guessed it... Vimeo.
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Re: Hosting for video files

Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:09 pm

Category5 wrote:
We too use Vimeo Pro for our Roku feed. When you're a pro user, you can visit the "Video Files" tab and grab the direct links for all the hosted files.

We had been using S3 with Cloudfront, but that became cost prohibitive. I was shocked to find Vimeo Pro was so cheap and would work, and did some testing where it actually ran very, very fast. Doing a wget on one of our Vimeo-hosted files, I am still in awe at how cheap it is.

The one thing with Vimeo is that the filenames have a ? in the name. My solution was to build a stream server which uses header redirects to point users to the file. This works GREAT for Roku but also our RSS feeds. Another nice thing is that it allows us to track a great deal of information about each and every view -- see https://status.category5.tv/. An easier solution might be to simply use YOURLS or another link shortener (to hide the ? from Roku, which tends to break things in some cases).

See http://v.cat5.tv/a/2hpFuOQ7/v/e/i/1410/q/hd/CAT5TV-383-Memories-of-Me-HD.m4v <- if you grab it with wget you'll see what's "actually" happening behind the scenes... but the inevitable endpoint is... you guessed it... Vimeo.


That is brilliant! I was just bouncing over here to see if I could figure out a solution for masking our Vimeo urls (having an issue with a pirate). Thanks for that, now to implement it. :)
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Re: Hosting for video files

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:14 am

Hi guys, someone mentioned $100 a month is too steep? We would gladly take that! Ha! We are having to get away from Vimeo. Unfortunately, because we like them. But, they are trying to get rid of us, we think, because we are getting too big. We need a good cheap alternative. We have 9 Roku channels with 1200 shows. So bandwidth is a major factor. Any suggestions would be so great. Thanks and these forums are wonderful

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