Dev Setup Survey / Inquiry

dev42 · Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:59 pm

For those interested in sharing ( bragging or crying on other ppl's shoulders! ) what's your Roku Dev setup like?

Desktop/Laptop/Chromebook/iPhone/Andoid/Atari ...?
Windows/Mac/Linux/BeOS/DOS ... ?
Notepad++/Visual Studio/Eclipse/gedit/Emacs ... ?
Telnet, PuTTY ... ?
Misc/Home-Brew Tools: Anybody use/create their own Qt Designer ( for Roku Dev! ), etc?

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I'll start us off:
me: Hello, my handle is Dev42.
ppl: Hello, Dev42!"
me (sobbing): My Ex-Dev Setup (recently DIED!):

Windows Vista Laptop
Notepad++ with VB highlighting ( that I had to edit the XML to get it to stick for future .brs files )
FireFox
PuTTY
Not yet ready to Stop Sobbing

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Current Non-Working - Temp Dev System / Inquiry:

Windows XP/Manjaro Linux Laptop with 512MB of RAM
FireFox churns HD into butter. Doesn't completely lock up, but is unusable.
Does anybody here do any Dev work on a PC with 512MB RAM?
FF 37 sys req's suggest 512MB RAM minimum... does that mean that is not the prob?
Could it be Flash or something else that is RAM hungry?
Slow Down prevalent in both XP/Manjaro -- Arch based Linux ver, known for being light and fast. Good for old HW.
Is it possible the NIC and/or HD are borked?
Did an XP update/Linux kernel update/Flash or some internet SW leave the realm of sub-Gigabyte RAM?
Gonna give an old Puppy Linux Live-CD a shot and see if there's any improvement

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Remember, Kids, Save Early, Save Often and backup, Backup, BACKUP!

dev42 · Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:19 pm

dev42 wrote:
Gonna give an old Puppy Linux Live-CD a shot and see if there's any improvement

Believe it or not, it is much better! Not perfect, but better. It even mirrored the screen automagically ( mostly. it cropped the task-bar on the TV. ) Anywho, hopefully, this proves it's a SW / OS thing and I might be able to tweak / improve Win XP / Manjaro or whatever.

a couple grumblings

Komag · Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:10 am

- Windows 7 Laptop
- Notepad++
- Eclipse for console
- Usually an old CRT TV
- Sometimes "EasyCap" - video capture input dongle to display the RCA cables SD signal in a window right on my laptop
- Sometimes a small HDTV via HDMI
- GraphicsGale for pixel art and sprite animation (it's very good and totally free!)
- Audacity for sound editing
- Amazon S3/CloudFront for file hosting
- Roku models: Roku HD 2500, Roku 1 2710, Roku 2 XS 3100

sjb64 · Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:52 am

2 TVs plus Windows 7 on 6 screen 16Gb PC (on a 2 row by 3 wide stack), coding BS in visual studio as text files (first and biggest screen), second screen has folder window up to delete and rezip app in a batch file, third screen has app loading website up to load, fourth as telnet debugger up (landscape), fifth as dev forums, sixth has brightscript manual/web browser for lookups (also landscape), a 1080p 22" monitor/tv and 720p 50" tv, also for additional testing (at home) a roku 2 on a medium size tv, and a roku 3 on the home theater. I just reread this all and sounds all awesome, but to make a more realistic picture put a few empty mountain dew code red cans, some m&m wrappers, and assorted mail/paper/unread books and the like around it, and throw in a blue screen every week or 2 (is windows after all).

TheEndless · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:44 am

MacBook Pro running Windows 8.1
Eclipse and MinGW
Custom makefile for building and packaging
40" TCL Roku TV with 6x2 HDMI switch with legacy Roku, Roku 2 XD, Roku LT, Roku 2, Roku 3, and Roku streaming stick (and various other models that get switched in/out depending on testing needs).

dev42 · Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:40 pm

Komag wrote:
- Notepad++ ... - Eclipse for console ... - Usually an old CRT TV

NPP FTW! ;o) But out of curiosity, wouldn't Eclipse offer more? Like reserved word auto-completion or the like?
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TheEndless wrote:
MacBook Pro running Windows 8.1

Wait. Whaaaaat?
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TheEndless wrote:
Eclipse and MinGW
Custom makefile for building and packaging

Eclipse is the IDE and MinGW is the console? Doesn't OSX have *nix CLI tools? ... but it's not a Mac. Also, what do you mean by "packaging"? Does that auto-load it to your Roku? or do you still need to upload it from a browser?
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sjb64 wrote:
2 TVs plus Windows 7 on 6 screen 16Gb PC (on a 2 row by 3 wide stack)

Seriously?! How much do you charge when it's not in use? I've never got the hang of Virtual Desktops in Linux, but that could have saved you some $... but I'd still rather have your setup!
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Found an old 4GB USB keydrive with ArchBang... that works! No slowdown, but it is running FF v12. FWIW, I'm not a Linux guru. I've toyed with it on/off over the years.

TheEndless · Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:06 pm

dev42 wrote:
TheEndless wrote:
MacBook Pro running Windows 8.1

Wait. Whaaaaat?

I'm not a fan of Mac OS, but I liked the hardware.

dev42 wrote:
TheEndless wrote:
Eclipse and MinGW
Custom makefile for building and packaging

Eclipse is the IDE and MinGW is the console? Doesn't OSX have *nix CLI tools? ... but it's not a Mac. Also, what do you mean by "packaging"? Does that auto-load it to your Roku? or do you still need to upload it from a browser?

OSX does, but I'm not running OSX. MinGW just gives me the ability to use some fancy makefiles that are OS agnostic (for the most part). By "packaging" I mean it zips up the file and uploads it to the box automatically. I can also rekey the box, upload the channel, sign it, and download it to a named pkg file in one line (e.g., make pkg IP=roku.ip.address), which automatically names the file with the version information from that manifest.

Here's a snapshot of my IDE setup:

That's a Remoku web remote on the bottom left (for when I need to enter text, or I'm too lazy to pick up the remote and point it at the TV), debug console bottom middle, and MinGW/cmd console bottom right.

BradC · Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:22 pm

PC: old hp win7 desktop
processor: dual core (ouch) 3GHz Athlon II X2
ram: 16 Gig
drives: 4TB (no RAID

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backup: 1TB external backup on pogoplug / 500G secondary backup on netgear NAS

Managed to accidentally delete all my source code a couple years ago. (yay me! wooo! :oops:

) Trying real hard not to repeat that one, but I probably will.

Development env:
Eclipse as primary IDE
Notepad++ for quick editing, viewing, or to grab code snippets from one of my earlier projects.

I try to use remoku.tv for testing, since I have several rokus in my small office, and I sometimes find that I've accidentally installed 5 new channels on one roku while playing a game on another. I use a chrome "application shortcut" for this, though I'm jealous of the setup the endless has, it looks like it would work better.

Second monitor to sometimes watch TV when my actual TV is busy with testing, or to test (roku sound is hooked to PC audio input, and it's easy to switch input from PC to roku.) Mostly I just use one monitor and the TV for development, and the other rokus and tvs around the house for testing.

Test Roku players:
Roku 1 N1000 (apparently a paperweight now, operating as such.)
HD 2500
XS 3100
Roku3 4200
Roku Stick 3500
TCL Roku TV

TheEndless · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:34 pm

BradC wrote:
Managed to accidentally delete all my source code a couple years ago. (yay me! wooo! ) Trying real hard not to repeat that one, but I probably will.

I have CrashPlan setup to backup my source folder every 5 minutes, and keep infinite versions...

belltown · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:53 pm

dev42 wrote:
Notepad++ with VB highlighting ( that I had to edit the XML to get it to stick for future .brs files )

It should be possible to use Notepad++ with VB highlighting without editing the Xml files. See here (http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=83613 - point 3 in particular).

NewManLiving · Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:40 am

Hardware
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ASUS i7 2.4GHz 8GB 1TB Laptop, Win 8
All Supported models of ROKU ( except TV and the new 2 which is really the 3, and the new 3 which has not changed internally from what I read )
LG 32 HD 1080 TV
Thinking about the ROKU TV will eventually get it

Development, Backup, CDN
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Amazon Cloud ( costs about 1$ a month for development use )
S3 Browser for Amazon S3, Amazon S3 APP for ios

IDE
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Eclipse LUNA Release 2 (4.4.2) Setup with JSON and XML plugins as well as the internal web browser for Brightscript reference

Software
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MediaCoder
HandBrake
FormatFactory
Paint.NET
NotePad++
Gimp 2
Swish ( Flash generator also generates png frames )
Synfig Studio
Powerpoint

sjb64 · Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:20 am

dev42 wrote:
sjb64 wrote:
2 TVs plus Windows 7 on 6 screen 16Gb PC (on a 2 row by 3 wide stack)

Seriously?!...

Yes, but understand I'm mainly doing some rather large C# development for the backend and web services, CMS, housekeeping, and other systems that the Roku (and website and so on) call, RDPing into our Azure VMs and our automated transcoding and syncing servers, etc., so this setup makes sense for that, is admittedly overkill if I was doing mainly brightscript coding.

But I'll admit, having a setup like this is convenient.

EnTerr · Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:01 pm

TheEndless wrote:
BradC wrote:
Managed to accidentally delete all my source code a couple years ago. (yay me! wooo! ) Trying real hard not to repeat that one, but I probably will.

I have CrashPlan setup to backup my source folder every 5 minutes, and keep infinite versions...

You guys, umm... don't believe in source control systems?
Things like cvs, subversion, git, whathaveyou...

TheEndless · Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:09 pm

EnTerr wrote:
TheEndless wrote:
BradC wrote:
Managed to accidentally delete all my source code a couple years ago. (yay me! wooo! ) Trying real hard not to repeat that one, but I probably will.

I have CrashPlan setup to backup my source folder every 5 minutes, and keep infinite versions...

You guys, umm... don't believe in source control systems?
Things like cvs, subversion, git, whathaveyou...

I use subversion, github, bitbucket, etc. when working on code that I'm collaborating on and/or sharing with clients, but for personal development and backup of code between commits, automated backups have proven very effective and beneficial.

EnTerr · Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:21 am

TheEndless wrote:
EnTerr wrote:
You guys, umm... don't believe in source control systems?
Things like cvs, subversion, git, whathaveyou...

I use subversion, github, bitbucket, etc. when working on code that I'm collaborating on and/or sharing with clients, but for personal development and backup of code between commits, automated backups have proven very effective and beneficial.

Hmm, how interesting! Glad i asked and can see different way of thinking.
I use revision control for other reasons beyond backup - actually mostly for the other benefits.

For example i do some code review of the deltas when committing. Premise being the code in repository is stable/working and i inspect transactionally the differences i will be introducing. The code in the working copy on the other hand might not be - there'd be snippets of me horsing around, trying different things and forgot about them - which i dont want to leak into the repository.

I also tend to comment on each commit what was done, so at a later date i can pull a detailed list of changes (like this one). It comes quite handy if i have been poking at the code on and off over a long period (over a year in the sample presented) and frankly have no idea what was changed.

It also comes handy when i've shot myself in the foot - except a month ago and did not realize it till now but have been editing other parts of the code. So with revision control it's easier for me to pinpoint (diffs) when the damage occurred temporarily - and i don't have to revert but can just see the offending delta and (usually manually) undo the harm.

I am not mentioning branching/merging, where version control systems shine because that's not typical for the kind of development we are talking here. But at least tagging the tree at beta/release versions is useful.

How do you manage such things with auto-backups? Or is it so rarely you find yourself needing things like above that it's not worth the botheration?

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